Yesterday marks an interesting day: the HIT disassembler has just been completed and can correctly disassemble every HIT file in both games, The Sims 1 and The Sims Online. And interestingly, 47 of the 96 HIT instructions are unused, entailing us with a lot less research.
Here is the disassembly for the “sims_loadloop” function, exported in newmain.hit:
BINARY
[
sims_loadloop
loadb vol #0
loadb v1 #4
loadb v2 #2
loadl v3 #1020
note_on v1
set_loop
wait v2
add vol v1
cmp vol v3
ifge #_sims_loadloop
end
_sims_loadloop
wait_samp
end
]
The Event ID for this “track” (as they’re called), sims_loadloop, is 0xC7D88A0E. The Sound IDs for sims_loadloop and _sims_loadloop are 0x000001E3 and -1E4, which refer to two Hitlists; these supply lists of sounds which the VM should select at random. The Patch table describes attributes for each sound, like whether it’s looped by default or preloaded. Still, the context of this function is unclear, as I haven’t located the real load loop’s sound ID of 00004f85 anywhere yet.
I made a syntax highlighter for this code for Notepad++, which will help make figuring out the instructions more pleasant, because as it turns out, we need HIT for the game menus, making it another task for Tech Preview 1.
Good Work
Wow! This project has come so far over the last few months or so, I’ve been missing TSO since 2008 and I’m so happy there are people like you to bring it back. Keep us updated, Jack
thank you thank you!, finally another update with more good news, its just has I dreamed, could this mean we could finally import sims 1 expansion items into the online game so when the game does come back we have even more objects to play with?
Um, no, that’s not at all what I was suggesting. But it’s *probably* possible.
It’s most likely possible, but everyone would have to download an edited client for TSO with the expansion items included. Depending on how you do it, you’d need to unpack the TS1 expansion pack file where the items are contained, you’d need to unpack the TSO file and add the content from one to another, and repack it. Or you could do something like include TS1 expansion file in the TSO folder and use it from there. By the way, this is more directed towards the OP, I’m sure you already know how, or could find a way to do this.
And thanks for this, I’ve never gotten to try TSO, so I hope I will finally be able to one day.
We’ve already drawn out the plan, actually.
Since all of TSO’s exe and dlls combine to just 13.1MB (no joke), and they’re not compressed or packed or anything, it’s a good estimate that the Niotso Client will be 20MB tops.
This means it’s very feasible to just keep a separate client for each server. Custom content from each of these servers can collect together in one folder on your computer, so in case more than one server wants to add the same custom content, you don’t have to keep multiple copies of it.
Keep it good :)! I cant wait!!1
Nice!
This is wonderful news. I am very glad to read about such progress. But wasn’t NioTSO not going to add to or revise TSO? I thought you had to have it exactly the way it was. Maybe I misread.
Out of the box, Niotso will be exactly like TSO—but it will allow you to make changes.
Ah, okay. That’s pretty cool. Thanks for the clarification.
Awesome news
I cant wait to play this game!
so it would be possible to add TS1 objects then!, that would be something really cool I’d love to do it….could help apply to the master server when their finally is a working one again, you guys could have your very own game updates that add such items
If by “you guys” you mean “somebody else”, sure. But for legal reasons, the official testing server will provide the original game experience unmodified.
so its legal to bring back the original version of the game, so does that mean EA only has the copyrights for the EA-Land version and not TSO?
No, EA owns the trademark, code, media, and overall game experience for The Sims 1, The Sims Online, and EA-Land. The only reason we’re bringing back The Sims Online: New & Improved is because EA still hosts it (lol). The fact that this was arguably the best version of TSO is just a nice benefit.
Again, if you want to know the specifics of the legality, read this: http://wiki.niotso.org/Niotso/Legal_Summary
yeah I always thought that was so cruel that they still sell copy’s of the game on amazon, probably in store shelves somewhere too for a game that’s not even playable for now! so mean! lol
Im so glad, i jus theard of sims onlne and i got excited, but was really disapointed after all the negative stuff like it shut down…but know that I heard about this going on, I hope to play this soon!!!!
Just asking..but will you be able to type/chat to other sims normally?
Another question is, will TSO be in PC only? I hope not!
just heard* online*
Excuse me for spelling
But anyways please answer ASAP
Whatever you could do in the original game, you can do with Niotso. And it’s eventually going to be available for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, and Android. Everything in the repository but the client is already cross-platform.
hey, is this normal?
There is almost no visible progress yet, so yes. Every single binary requires you to extract certain game resources alongside it. This can all be done with farextract.
When Do You Guys Enter Pre-Alpha. I’d Really love To Test The Game. *But Im Afraid Of Scratchy and spazzy graphics when they mess up…. so let me know if it looks like that so i dont test it.*
Right now it looks like nothing. The client itself is a load screen that never finishes loading.
We’ve just finished most of the research we need for the Create-a-Sim screen (UIS, character rendering, and HIT for the sound events), so as soon as I have free time again I can begin working on the OpenGL windowing system for the login box.
Can You Let Me Know When You Guys Get To Where You Can Play And Test Stuff And Where The Body Isn’t Messed Up Like In That Photo On Afr0games.com Where You See The Body And It Has 2 Pointy Things Sticking Out. In Pre-alpha Is That When People Can Test? Im Also Surprised Though. I Thought You Guys Were Already In Pre-Alpha Because Someone Said You Guys Were 83% In Pre-Alpha So They Say Someone Said. Oh And Can I Be A Beta Tester For Pre-Alpha? Oh And How Much # Percentage Are You Guys At?
*I* already have character rendering perfect, and I made a video to prove it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAZGzClNghY
The animation runs at your monitor’s native refresh rate, which is possible because it interpolates bone rotations using the Slerp algorithm.
The reason I make my videos with my camera is because then it’s much harder to fake the video; I make random motions with the keys to prove I’m giving it input in realtime, and I show at different angles so that it’s nearly impossible to photoshop a fake screen onto the monitor. (Plus, these videos are homage to Don Hopkins’ home movies: http://www.donhopkins.com/home/movies/).
Niotso isn’t *in* pre-alpha yet. It’s still in planning. When I have recreated everything up to but before city rendering, that will be released as Technical Preview 1, and I’ll fix bugs if people find any.
does anything in this “Repository” work at? I downloaded the entire folder and i can’t get a single thing to launch without an error and the updater gets stuck at like 36% patching :/
Ok Thanks! *oh and since you said all that stuff i would really love to be a tester.*
Oh And What Do We Plan On Doing When The Game Is In Grand Release. Like We Get Installer Files To Install You Guy’s Files To Go With The Original Sims Online Stuff?
Actually, I’ve mostly decided that niotso.org will be intended for people wanting to set up their own TSO servers. If you want to play TSO on somebody else’s server, you’ll need to download the client that they specifically made to work on that server.
So if there were a popular server called Cherry Hills or something, you’d go to cherryhills.com and download the installer from them.
If the installer can’t find the game installation, it can *automatically* download it from EA’s server.
But please don’t wait until that day comes, since EA might finally take the download down.
Dont Worry. I Already Got It. (Then Took It Off And Got It Again And Took It Off) And Now It’s Back On. And I Wont Take It Off Youtube.
I Mean I Wont Take It Off Again.
Wow. im surprised no one’s been talking here for 2 days.
so does this mean that there will be no “main cities” like there were previously? (i.e. alphaville, dan’s grove, etc)
And. It seems its gonna be a long time from now when this game is released……….. A VERY Very long time…. :l
May be a long time, but it’s worth the wait. Can’t wait for the return of the Sims online, there I was in 2007, not even knowing this game existed wishing there was a Sims online, while playing Sims 2,to only find out it existed after it’s closed… This year.
it took me till sometime either around this year or last year.
HERES WHAT I THINK RIGHT NOW AFTER WATCHING ON YOUTUBE “A New Beginning:The Beginning Of The End” “NO! EA-LAND/THE SIMS ONLINE HAS TO COME BACK! I HAVEN’T EVEN KNOWN ABOUT IT TILL THIS YEAR/LAST YEAR! I DONT CARE IF THERE WAS EVER A SIMS 2 NOR DO I CARE IF THERE WAS A SIMS 3 AND EXPANSION PACKS ALSO ALL SIMS GAMES I DONT EVEN CARE FOR ANYMORE! THE SIMS ONLINE/EA-LAND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST SIMS THERE CAN EVER BE AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR I WHILE THIS GAME IS SHUT DOWN! IM GONNA START A PROTEST FOR EA TO BRING BACK A FUN GAME THAT THEY KILLED A LONG TIME AGO! WHO’S WITH ME?! EA BRING IT BACK!!”
*i copied and paste that all from a youtube video comment. yet it was my comment* AND I HATE EA FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE AND I CALL A COMPLAINT ON EA AND I WISH I COULD SUE THEM!
im gonna break down soon if this doesn’t enter pre-alpha soon.
welp cheers to a whole new year of patiently waiting on a demo
when will this go to pre-alpha. im going to die! whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! (sarcasm sorry but im dying to play and im bored! D: and the game i usually play will shut down november 5th.)
Hi,
Unfortunately, I can’t connect with the Niotso, because I get an error message: ”EA.com is currently experiencing technical difficulties and this game is tempopary unavailable. Please try again later”
What could I do now? Would it be possible to connect somehow?
Kind regards,
Marcrgrs
Marcrgrs- It is not possible to connect at this time because the game is still in the planning stage. It is very far from being complete and playable. The only thing you can do now is paitiently wait for progress and check back every now and then.
Dear Marlena,
Thank you for letting me know.
No problem
Hello, I was player of TSO in 2008 until its closure (taking advantage of EA-Land was free) I’m Spanish, so I do not know much English and use a translator. When I learned that Niotso was launched after closing Tsor, I started looking information and report on the progress of social networks this page. But I have some doubts arise: Why Niotso play I have to make my own server or can I just sign up and play on the server you choose? I’m not clear at all.
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Hola, fui jugador de TSO en 2008 hasta su cierre (aprovechando que EA-Land fue gratuito) Soy español, así que no se mucho inglés y uso traductor. Cuando supe que Niotso se puso en marcha tras el cierre de TSOR, empecé a buscar información e informar en redes sociales los avances de ésta página. Pero me surge unas dudas: ¿Para jugar a Niotso tendré que hacer mi propio servidor o con solo registrarme ya podré jugar en el servidor que elija? No me queda claro del todo.
I Feel The Same Way Except I Didnt Play It.
Fatbag you can make My Sims go back to being online, you can edit the. Dll game that deal with the network, or create an emulator … Because I never played any Sims game series with my friends and even Online.
When playing in TSO, the EA servers were, you could not create your own server, only the EA. My question was can we create our own servers or have NIOTSO?
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Cuando jugaba en TSO, los servidores eran de EA, no podias crear un servidor propio, sólo los de EA. Mi pregunta era ¿podremos crear el nuestro propio o habrán servidores de NIOTSO?
Fatbag you can make My Sims go back to being online, you can edit the. Dll game that deal with the network, or create an emulator … Because I never played any Sims game series with my friends and even Online.
Blog http://mysimsor.blogspot.com.br/
I need your help guys!
Whats the online game in progress which is like Sims, it’s got a blue and white background.
It’s something like… HomeEve or something or Homecloud, I’m not sure if those guesses are even close. please help !
Is it Tirnua?
@Jwofle- the game you’re speaking of is called Vitare.
Hey, I hardly ever check this site, is the project still active to restore TSO?
yes
no news???
I Know Right?! I WANT NEWS! I WANT NIOTSO! I WANT THE SIMS ONLINE!!!!!!
GUYS,IS THERE ANY NEWS AT ALL? ANY CHANGES TO ANYTHING AT ALL?!
If there is news, I’m sure Fatbag will post it. Posting in all caps isn’t going to make it come any faster.
GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW! IM SOON GOING TO SEND A COMPLAINT TO EA TO BRING THE GAME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need Play it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Fatbag for all!!!!!!
No news has of July WHATS GOING ON FATBAG and Afr0!!?!?!??!?!?
Hey just wondering if this is still in progress , this is an amazing Idea and I am looking forward to participating in any and every way I can, please fix the “mailing list” if possible .. ill be back everyday to check on any updates.
scratch what i said about the mailing list seems to be working fine now
It’s still active. Check out Afr0games.com also. It’s a project to restore TSO too.
I am also fallowing project dollhouse, but I thought those where 2 completly different projects
is this going to be free, and do you work together with project dollhouse
pretty sure they do sense that’s the only site that seems to be getting the updates now
Is this dead? Is this still going on? Project Dollhouse is the only dev that has updates, and this one sounded interesting..
more then likely, there merging the two together
people…..shut up and visit the other TSO emulator site THERE” STILL NEWS THERE! geez! >.>
—> http://afr0games.com/wordpress/
Well you don’t have to be a jerk about it.
And good job guys! I’ve prepared for the upcomings of the sims online/niotso/afr0games/project dollhouse! I’ve updated to the last version of The Sims Online for when the testing starts.